Tuesday, April 29, 2014

Where Did Those Trialogues Go?

I recently posted the first few in a series of videos, they have since disappeared into the vortex. What happened? Basically, there's been a certain amount of the usual controversy about whether or not gay people in the Church are allowed to call themselves gay. The site that was hosting them has decided that it doesn't want to be embroiled in that controversy -- which is fair enough. Its primary outreach involves the promotion of NFP. If I was doing a series of posts about NFP for Spiritual Friendship, and it caused SF to be plunged into some of the uglier in-fighting between different NFP camps, I would understand if Ron said "Let's not go there."

Anyway, the videos will be resurfacing eventually, probably sometime over the summer or next fall. Basically whenever Ron, Joey and I have enough time to build a web-site.

If you're interested in something with much higher production values, albeit a higher cringe-worthy cheese factor, you can check out The Third Way. I'm in it. I'm going to be writing a fuller response to it over the next couple of days.


  1. Yeah, okay, the swelling music was WAY overdone, but that's pretty much standard practice in this sort of thing. Other than the higher flights of sentimentality, I think it's very well done. I liked the ruined church and forest with junk in it motif.

    I think probably the best audience for this video are heterosexual catholics, rather than homosexual non-catholics, but that's okay. It's focussed much more on rallying the team and giving everyone a positive message to take away, rather than making a fuller analysis of the issue and it's many sides. But, well, the team needs rallying and people need a positive message. People even need a bit of sentimental swelling music sometimes.

    I'm looking forward to your review!

  2. I just starting reading your blog recently. Can you suggest an article or piece on why it is controversial to say "gay" catholic? Is it because it suggests a lifestyle? Do some people think "same-sex attracted" is a better term?

    1. Deborah,

      Thanks for the question from the sane end of the pool. There is actually a very vocal (but small) contingent of Catholics who think that using the word "gay" is a problem. It's an old "ex-gay" idea left over from the eighties, but some people are quite attached to it. Dan Mattson's "Why I Don't Call Myself a Gay Christian http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2012/07/why-i-dont-call-myself-a-gay-christian gives a pretty good explanation of the argument.


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